Beiträge von Przemek

    Thanks for the suggestions and tips.


    At this moment I do not have better photos but I will try to get them and then to post on the forum.
    The bow is not twisted and the wood has darker stripes across the bow.


    Braaatsch, I know your opinion that not the creator and the item itself is of value but a recognized producer gives you a better chance of having a good quality item. I also know that the bow H.R. Pfretzschner cost from 100 to several thousand euros (my skills are enough for 100 € :)). In addition, he would fit this bow to my violin with a monk head (so, by the way, two luthiers issued an opinion about their value, ie between 12-13 thousand PLN :))

    Hello,


    My question concerns violin bow signed by H.R.Pfretzschner. Frog designation of the manufacturer.
    Is it an original bow or a fake?
    I can not find any information on whether H.R.fretzschner produced baroque bow's.
    What wood is it made of?
    I can only buy the bow I'm not sure about its value and originality.
    What value can have such a bow?
    Thank you in advance for your help.


    regards





    Gentlemen, to summarize.
    I realize that the price of a luthier does not necessarily reflect the market price.
    At the same time, it seems to me that, as Braaatsche wrote, it all depends on the Buyer and what he draws attention to. For violinists, the most important thing is the sound (although with such violins for the violin competition will not go), for someone else's appearance will count more.
    Violix I have not talked to them about the luthier sale only asked for a quote.
    According to those who played my violin (musicians and music teachers in music school) their sound is very good, according to the luthier, he also evaluated their condition and construction which was also assessed very well.
    Tomorrow I am going to Warsaw for Mazurkas Festival (http://festivalmazurki.pl/en/). It involves many luthiers (also foreigners), so the musicians will also ask for consultations and opinions. We'll see what they say. I will share with you what I will hear.

    I am very eager to see a violin like mine (please upload pictures here).
    As I understand you want to say that the violin in the shape of Gusetto - so we call it (Stradivarius also in this shape built violin, but also eg Caspar Tieffenbrucker) are easier to build? I'm not so sure and for some reasons, but I'm not a luthier so I will not speak.


    On the subject of Mendelssohn's concert I will not speak for you in the performance because you and I do not know anything about you. I am just so unhappy to say so much about an instrument you have not heard.
    Price € 100 000 is an example, maybe 20 or 50 thousand. Exactly another world, so I do not compare my violins to them (but also the price is generally lower).
    As for copying, I think you're wrong, because many well-known luthiers make copies of old instruments for sale or to order violinists.
    We wrote about the fact of the untypicalness and less acceptance of other forms of violin than we have written in this thread.

    Braaatsch I know and understand all that you are talking about.
    I also do not say that my violin is a masterpiece, may not be unique, although other such and not seen and not found (worth so much and not, for example, € 100,000 as a modern copy of old instruments performed by current masters), but it is a solid Instrument and well done, with a good sound and how I think from here such a valuation of the lute. I did not value the violin and I did not fix it because I did not know it.
    I rely on the knowledge of a person who knows and not on my, own feelings. You are writing about lutheras and at the same time about Polish luthier saying "polish guy". It was not nice and polite.
    You sent me on Ebay because these links are the only violin that is similar to mine. Show other similar, and then you can discuss about the valuation of the luthier.
    Once again he says he does not want to sell them, sell them on Ebay or anywhere else
    This is not an instrument to be insured, and the difference between the valuation and the real price will always be because if someone wants to buy something for resale it must be lower than the price of the item.


    Read what he writes and how j_g_Gütter - you think you should write so?

    Braaatsch Show me such a violin or similar on ebay :) As I you understand, you can better measure the instrument than a luthier having his hand in it (luthier not a polish guy).


    I do not sell them at the moment. Luthier does not buy, luthier repairs and measures instrument :)
    I wrote this as information and nothing else.


    I do not speak about the rest of the world but (and though I am far from comparison) but...
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQU…b3c3a2:g:Ug0AAOSw32lYpiqA
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Very-o…033c61:g:ujkAAOSw4shX-nQ4

    Violin are after the lute repair, replacement of the bridge, button, minor repair of the top plate and cosmetic paint.
    Luthier's opinion about the instrument: instrument in excellent condition. Precise execution and careful finishing of the instrument. Very good sound color. Very good, natural violin volume.
    The value of the instrument by the lute artist is about 3000 € (member of Polish Artists Luthiers Association) or more if purchased by the collector.

    I know that classical violin is appreciated and others that are different from the standard are more "quirky" and no one will play either in the competition or on the show.


    I likes my violin (but maybe it's a matter of my strange tastes, I like strange instruments, I recently bought a geigelaute Rilerr and I want to fix them so I can play them) and I do not want to sell them.


    Thank you very much for the idea of contacting the Museum of Instruments at Markneukirchen and to use their forum.

    Thank you for all information and comments. They are valuable and informative to me.
    It is not about their "value" and more atypical. Violators played (test) music school teachers and sounded like. Violinists have a "dark" sound (Pirastro Tonica strings) as defined as a viola.
    Comparing to my Stradivarius Karl Hofner (the year of construction between 1920 - 1940), they have a much nicer, sounding voice.


    Can you somehow specify in what manufactory or by whom they were made?


    Since you are talking about price, how much such violin can be worth (though I do not intend to sell them and keep them as a curiosity).